Dark Node Pre-Set Up Questions

Hello Everyone.

I am posting this topic because I believe more than a few future dark node operators will have similar questions even AFTER reading through the manual and available documentation. If I have missed the answers to these questions listed below, I apologize and will revise this if necessary once I find those answers.

Prior to establishing a node:

#1 - In terms of maintenance of a dark node, does the computer used in handling the set up and deployment also require to be running full time in order that the node operates properly (say I’m using Digital Ocean as the cloud provider)?

I do not understand whether or not a person who travels periodically can feasibly operate a node… ie (assuming a physical computer must be on at all times, it may not be practical to use a laptop that you travel with, and therefore a machine at home may need to go unattended for weeks at a time). Is this acceptable or not relevant once the node is deployed to the cloud?

#2 - If a node is “down” for one reason or another, does the bond become at risk to the node operator, or only the fees collected by the RenVM during the time a node is down? If current epoch fee forfeiture is the answer for this, is that the full amount during the epoch or can it be/is it measured and prorated based on the number of hours/days the node in question is down? For some prospective node operators, this may make the difference between bonding or selling their Ren. It comes down to how feasible is running a dark node while having travel responsibilities.

#3 - While the upper limit on dark node participation is 10,000 based on the available supply of Ren, are there any available projections on the expected rate of increase of node participation over the next few years or is that anyone’s best guess?

I think for Ren holders who are trying to decide whether to take on the responsibility and risk of bonding their Ren (especially for those who did not invest in the earlier days and would have paid a hefty price to obtain 100,000 tokens) versus selling to someone else who knows they want to bond them and earn a return, having some idea about expectations from within the community would be helpful.

For those of us who are in a position currently to contribute to the security of the network and virtual machine, but have yet to set up a node for lack of technical understanding, this may be the main question.

#4 - Are there any devs or computer savvy people that are offering assistance on the set up process on a paid hourly basis for people like myself who wish to establish a node but have not done so still 1 year later after the main net launched? I am eager to get set up but have no experience with programming and do not want to mess this up… too much at stake.

These are my core questions/concerns about operating a dark node.

Thank you for everyone who contributes to this conversation.

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1 onece setup your node on Digital Ocean,no need keep pc up allday.
2 i think the bond should be at risk if a node is down for a longtime,after fully decentralized.
3 more integration,more fees,more node bonded.
4 really easy to set up a node for nontech people like me.

Hi, there are a lot of people to help if you need it. Just ask here or in the main telegram group.

#1. You run the darknode on a virtual private server which needs to be up all day and is thus best purchased from a company with data/server centers like Digital Ocean. You only use your computer to connect and interact with that VPS particularly to update its software every now and then.

#4. I can vouch for the easiness of the Digital Ocean setup. I feel confident saying that you are at or above my level of bash and VPS experience and I sailed through the installation process. On top of that, this community has been very kind to me. I somehow created an extra droplet by accident and peeps here helped me figure out which of the two I had wasn’t my darknode so I could destroy it and save an extra $5 a month. Lastly, this forum beats reddit in terms of info and technical engagement for novices. I am lurking everyday here and it has been intensely informative. My only contribution has been a meme.

Thank you!

I did receive some guidance and was surprisingly able to get my node registered yesterday still :slight_smile: A word of encouragement for any non technical Ren holders who want to run a node… despite the instructions appearing on the surface to be daunting to some of us, they are quite thorough and you might just give it a try. I was pleasantly surprised once I opened a Digital Ocean account.

My questions about uptime and maintenance of the droplet remain but I’m now confident that the manual and forum access will be more than sufficient to be an operator!

Thankful to be part of the next epoch and year #2 for the dark pool.


That’s great insight thanks! I also see a 2nd droplet but now one of them matches the name I gave the node at registration… so is it safe to delete any other droplet?

I think there was a delay when creating it inside D.O. and hit create twice.

Lol, glad to see it wasn’t just me. Let me try to ping you on this other thread that helped me figure it out.

edit: Done, the post title is Digital Ocean Droplets

Amazing, thanks my fRen :slight_smile: